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	<title>Comments on: worship ministry thoughts - late-comers</title>
	<link>http://onelouder.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/18/worship-ministry-thoughts-late-comers/</link>
	<description>. . .unconnected ramblings mostly about music. . .</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://onelouder.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/18/worship-ministry-thoughts-late-comers/#comment-1896</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about we start with a lead-in song appropriate for the tone of the message, then the ushers close the doors and only allow late comers in during connect time, which is usually 5-10 minutes in? Perhaps not the most all-embracing, but would be a minor affront to most, yet allow us to preserve the intended mood of the individual service. It would need to be "advertized" by way of weekly announcements/reasoning, posting in the "bullegram", and via the weekly email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about we start with a lead-in song appropriate for the tone of the message, then the ushers close the doors and only allow late comers in during connect time, which is usually 5-10 minutes in? Perhaps not the most all-embracing, but would be a minor affront to most, yet allow us to preserve the intended mood of the individual service. It would need to be &#8220;advertized&#8221; by way of weekly announcements/reasoning, posting in the &#8220;bullegram&#8221;, and via the weekly email.</p>
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		<title>By: onelouder</title>
		<link>http://onelouder.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/18/worship-ministry-thoughts-late-comers/#comment-1888</link>
		<dc:creator>onelouder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 04:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://onelouder.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/18/worship-ministry-thoughts-late-comers/#comment-1888</guid>
		<description>good point about the people who are on time suffering because of the people who aren't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good point about the people who are on time suffering because of the people who aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: mytwocents</title>
		<link>http://onelouder.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/18/worship-ministry-thoughts-late-comers/#comment-1886</link>
		<dc:creator>mytwocents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 01:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that what you did two Sunday's ago was very moving and was an awesome way to start the service.  I would love to see changes to the "norm" more often.  I don't mean to be harse but if people miss the good stuff because they were fellowshipping in the lobby then perhaps they will come in on the time from now on and if not...I mean I just don't think that the people who are in the sactuary when the service starts should miss how the spirit may be promoting you to start a service because 50% of the people aren't in there on time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that what you did two Sunday&#8217;s ago was very moving and was an awesome way to start the service.  I would love to see changes to the &#8220;norm&#8221; more often.  I don&#8217;t mean to be harse but if people miss the good stuff because they were fellowshipping in the lobby then perhaps they will come in on the time from now on and if not&#8230;I mean I just don&#8217;t think that the people who are in the sactuary when the service starts should miss how the spirit may be promoting you to start a service because 50% of the people aren&#8217;t in there on time.</p>
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		<title>By: onelouder</title>
		<link>http://onelouder.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/18/worship-ministry-thoughts-late-comers/#comment-1879</link>
		<dc:creator>onelouder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>public scolding?  i'm not sure that burning people is the answer, jon....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>public scolding?  i&#8217;m not sure that burning people is the answer, jon&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: bluedevildad</title>
		<link>http://onelouder.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/18/worship-ministry-thoughts-late-comers/#comment-1877</link>
		<dc:creator>bluedevildad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://onelouder.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/18/worship-ministry-thoughts-late-comers/#comment-1877</guid>
		<description>What about taking down names of people who are hanging out in the lobby?  Or feeding the video of the latecomers into the main service?  A public scolding from the stage?

We noticed this alot lately - and I think you hit on it partly - we see people who are just excited to be connecting in the lobby area.  But it does make it unfortunate when, like this week, we kicked off the day with a huge element that is intended to help the next 2 weeks make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about taking down names of people who are hanging out in the lobby?  Or feeding the video of the latecomers into the main service?  A public scolding from the stage?</p>
<p>We noticed this alot lately - and I think you hit on it partly - we see people who are just excited to be connecting in the lobby area.  But it does make it unfortunate when, like this week, we kicked off the day with a huge element that is intended to help the next 2 weeks make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://onelouder.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/18/worship-ministry-thoughts-late-comers/#comment-1876</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://onelouder.voxtropolis.com/2007/12/18/worship-ministry-thoughts-late-comers/#comment-1876</guid>
		<description>One approach I've seen is to sometimes start the service with the message, just to shake things up a little. For some reason many people seem to think that the message is what the service is all about, and the music and worship is the intro or something. But maybe that idea is a little extreme. :-)

As parents with a new baby, we've also found the large number of people arriving late to be an issue when trying to sit in the back row - it's so distracting having people walking in front of you, long into the service. Our solution is to sit further forward, but I'm not sure what the solution for the programming team is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One approach I&#8217;ve seen is to sometimes start the service with the message, just to shake things up a little. For some reason many people seem to think that the message is what the service is all about, and the music and worship is the intro or something. But maybe that idea is a little extreme. <img src='http://onelouder.voxtropolis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As parents with a new baby, we&#8217;ve also found the large number of people arriving late to be an issue when trying to sit in the back row - it&#8217;s so distracting having people walking in front of you, long into the service. Our solution is to sit further forward, but I&#8217;m not sure what the solution for the programming team is.</p>
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